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SHowing Animals Respect and Kindness
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Real Rodeo Debate: Bring it on!Rodeo people spend a lot of time defending their abuse of animals. They think that using words like "animal athletes" to describe their victims will somehow fool the public into thinking that animals in rodeos have chosen this excuse for a life. However, when faced with the prospect of publicly debating an animal defender from SHARK, Rodeo Thugs always run scared. SHARK has a standing offer to openly debate any rodeo organization: Anytime. Anywhere.
Below is but a sampling of actual emails SHARK receives from rodeo supporters. The comments are sadly representative of what we receive from Rodeo Thugs. For more examples of the true nature of rodeo people, go to Rodeo "Family Values." The many misspellings and grotesque grammatical errors were made by the authors themselves. Rebuttals from SHARK are in RED. The animals' voice can be heard at TheCruelTruth.com Rodeo Thugs can speak, but can they write?
Received from bob (kezeda_91@hotmail.com):
I was reading your information about the sport of rodeo and i saw many things
that were untrue. and i will address them immediately.
-Not all people who compete in the sport of rodeo are simple mindless thugs who live to do nothing but injure people and animals.
While most rodeo people we have met tend to be thugs who mistreat animals, we have for a long time stated that we also have a few friends within the rodeo industry. These people would like to see substantial reforms such as ending steer tripping and calf roping, as well as instituting real humane rules instead of the phony rules that exist only for public relations purposes at this time. These people, however, are overruled by the mindless thugs who dominate the rodeo world.
in fact we are penalized, fined and often kicked out of associations for causing excessive abouse and pain to animals
Feel free to provide a list of people who have been disciplined for treating animals badly. We have been requesting this information for years from the PRCA and other associations, and they have not been forthcoming. Information regarding animal injuries and deaths have also been kept secret. Instead, the PRCA and other associations put out a phony, baseless statistic that is blatantly false.
-Calves are usually roped until they reach the weight of 400 pounds by the way.
Calves used in roping are on average three to four months old. A grown man on a horse weighing 1000+ pounds clotheslining, body slamming and dragging a baby like this should be ashamed of himself. Instead, these baby abusers are lauded and rewarded by the Rodeo Mafia.
-and the the only time a calf is knocked into the air by the rope hitting it is usually by accident
and if it is not the contestan can be fined up to $4000 plus the price of the calf.
You are referring to a "jerkdown," which is a common occurence in rodeo. It is usually not an accident. The contestant flips the rope upward to cause a jerkdown, and our videos show that these incidents are both regular and uncalled by rodeo judges.
-we usually only use male calves because they are sturdier and they can take the lifestyle better than females can.
I think the correct word to be used instead of "lifestyle" is "cruelty." In any case, no calf is prepared to take the abuse handed out in calf roping, which in an effort to defraud the public about what this brutality is all about, has been renamed "tie-down roping."
-when calves are roped on the range they more often than not are knocked down brutally because they are bigger and hit the rope harder than a smaller calf would.
Calves roped on the range are not involved in a timed event. They are roped gently if they are roped at all. A rancher with half a brain would fire someone and perhaps thrash them if they treated the rancher's investment in the life-threatening way they are treated in a rodeo.
-during events involving bucking horses the flank strap actually pinches a nerve that releases a hormone causing the animal to become enraged.
You made this up. But in any case, why would someone want to cause a horse to be enraged? If you really want to stand by this statement, please provide some foundation for this baseless assertion.
-also during bucking events the cowboy is only allowed to wear a certain type of spur that isnt even capable of scrapiing the hide of a horse let alone a bull.
If the spurs don't hurt (that is what you are claiming, right?), then why wear them? Here's a hard fact -- well over a decade ago the Pittsburgh city council banned the use of spurs, flank straps and electric prods, and there hasn't been a rodeo in the city ever since. The bottom line is, without rodeo's "Tools of Torture," there is no rodeo.
-no horse bucks for fun when they have a saddle on them. horse have two survival instincts run away(which is the primary one) and turn and fight(which only happens when they cant run away). when a horse cannnot run away it turns and attacks
that is what it does when it is frightened. proving that horses are not frightened in the arena otherwise they would attack people and become vicious.
Frankly, I have no idea what point you are trying to make with this statement. In any case, I agree with you that bucking horses are not having fun.
I am out time now maybe i will address all of your otheer concerns later but now i have to go and compete in my favorite sport RODEO.
That's fine. Write back to us anytime.
AND NO WE ARE NOT ALL A BUNCH OF THUGS SO QUIT SENDING THAT IMPRESSION OUT TO THE REST OF THE WORLD BECAUSE YOU ALL ARE A BUNCH OF STUP9ID MISGUIDED PEICES OF S*** WHO TRY TO KNOW THINGS ABOUT STUFF THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH YOU.
WHY THE HELL DONT YOU GO AND SAVE SSOMETHING THAT ACTUALLY NEEDS SAVING YOU STUPID F**** PEICES OF S***.bob, kezeda_91@hotmail.com
Bob, I am sorry to say that in the end of your communication you have exposed yourself as one of the very mindless rodeo thugs of which we speak. You have bared your "Rodeo Family Values." You are by nature an individual who seeks to dominate, and since you can't do it with people, you do it to animals. You are a perfect example of what is wrong with the Rodeo Mafia.
In a message dated 11/7/2006 CST, britters_04@hotmail.com writes:
Websites like yours disguest me.
You have a right to your opinion. It is worth mentioning, however, that virtually every legitimate humane society WORLDWIDE is opposed to the cruelty of rodeos.
Rodeo by far is NOT cruel to animals.
Our documentation and common sense indicates otherwise.
Strict guildlines are followed and organizations preside over rodeos to
ensure they are followed.
Ridiculous. Go to our ReportersWhoCare.com web site and you will see both television documentaries and newspaper articles that clearly show the cruelty, injuries and death that result to rodeo animals, and the fact that supposed "humane rules" exist for public relations purposes only.
Actually the later statement needs to be made more forcefully. Those supposed rules are a joke. Rodeo associations do not publicize animal casualties, nor those charged with humane violations. We certainly believe that is because violators, of which there are many, are not disciplined. Given the propaganda that exists and which people like you parrot, this means that rodeo associations, and those within those associations, lack truthfulness, dignity or integrity.
Do you really think that stock contractors are
going to put their livestock (which is their income and livelihood) into
danger or in a situation where they could be hurt and no longer perform?
Of course. They consider the animals to be expendable, just as those involved in dogfighting, cockfighting and bullfighting.
Your darn right they aren't.
Yes, they do.
The average bucking bull or bucking horse works 5 minutes PER YEAR in the
arena.
Let's look at this oft-repeated claim. First, most horses are bucked more than 37.5 times, which is what you get when you do the math of dividing eight seconds into 5 minutes. Of course, this doesn't in any way take into account the massive travel time these animals spend on the road. They don't ride in heated or air-conditioned vehicles, and they don't stay in hotels. When they aren't abused in the chutes and in the arenas they are in a cramped, crowded dirt pen. What a life! The road is tough on these animals.
But beyond that, we have offered rodeo people as much as $300 to take a momentary shock from a Hot-Shot, the very device they are so quick to use on their animal victims. Three hundred dollars! Held the money in one hand and the Hot-Shot in the other in front of television cameras at the National Finals Rodeo in Las Vegas. These "brave, tough cowboys" had an opportunity to make better money than Oprah for those few seconds. So how many took us up on the offer? Not a one! That shows what a great life they REALLY think their victims have. These phony cowboys don't want any piece of it!
Not to mention that bull and horse hides are both much thicker than
human skin.
It isn't a question of thickness -- it is a question of sensitivity. Here's a good way to think of this: Ask yourself if, in the case of a gun shot, would you rather be shielded by a one-foot piece of foam, or a one-inch piece of hardened steel? The answer is obvious, and the fact is that bovines and equines are more sensitive to the effects of electricity than are humans!
Spurs are free-spinning so they do not cut the animal but rather
encourage them to buck.
Spurs "encourage" an animal to buck from pain. No responsible horse caregiver would ever spur the daylights out of their mount simply to get a violent reaction.
Do you think any animal in pain is going to want to
move at all, much less buck?
Oh yeah, they'll buck from the abuse. That's the only reason most of them do buck. Back in about 1997 we offered to ride a bucking horse at the National Finals Rodeo. Offered to ride one without spurs or a flank strap. If the rodeo people were right they would get a chance to see an activist land on his tail. But if the horse didn't buck the rodeo would be over. Once again, as in the case of the Hot-Shot offer, the "brave cowboys" refused. How wimpy is that? Horses and bulls don't buck because they are wild. These are tame, domesticated animals, and they certainly are NOT wild.
If an animal was in pain, it would lay down.
Utterly ridiculous. Is that your claim? Every time an animal is in pain it lays down? The animal doesn't jump around or run to try to escape the pain or in desperation? It just lays down? Where to these people come from who make such illogical and idiotic statements?
And I can't remember the exact number, but rodeo stock injuries are as rare
as 1 in 500,000 runs or more.
This is a completely false and utterly unsubstantiated piece of propaganda that any five-year-old should be able to spot, assuming it isn't a five-year-old from a rodeo family. Rodeo associations do not release animal injury reports. Never have -- never will. They simply make bogus claims like what you just proffered. In fact, the public would be appalled if it knew how many animals are injured, maimed and killed in rodeos.
Why don't you do some reputable research like Friends of Rodeo instead of
finding the 1 in a million instances of abuse and completely exagerating it.
"Reputable" and "Friends of Rodeo" (FOR) do not belong in the same sentence. FOR is a group that tries without much success to promote rodeo propaganda. It has as much integrity and credibility (NONE) as other rodeo organizations.
Why don't you help human who are being abused with is far more common.
This is an incredibly ironic suggestion. One can only imagine how much good could be done with all the money wasted by rodeo people as they drive around and spend tons of money on fuel, entry fees, equipment, and replacing "spent" animals while trying to play some kind of half-assed "John Wayne" in their funny cowboy costumes.
Instead, these people take money from unethical corporations, and welfare handouts from corrupt government agencies. Millions and millions of dollars are utterly wasted on this cruel and ridiculous activity by people who are un-Godly, un-American, animal abusing liars and cheaters. And on top of everything else, they then imagine that they are going to tell others how to live their lives? Unbelievable!
So just stop the lies and claims
We don't lie. Our video and still pictures back up every claim at www.TheCruelTruth.com. So do real journalists. Take a look at their work at www.ReportersWhoCare.com.
Also, if britters_04@hotmail.com spent less time at rodeos and more time at school, perhaps he/she would have better command of the English language, or in the alternative might at least learn how to use spell-check...
Anyway, thanks for the E-mail. It will appear, along with our response, on our web site. It's the only way we get to debate rodeo people anymore. Your so-called "leaders" won't try to debate because they came out looking like the lying fools they are. Now, they have given that job to you...
In a message dated 10/22/2006 9:30:27 P.M. CDT, Will
(broncrider888@aol.com) writes:
Yall have no idea what ur talking bout.
Sure we do. We've been in more rodeo arenas than most rodeo fans.
Ive been to and praticipated in many rodeos and ive never seen any animals shocked of beaten.
That's what you ALL say, but no matter if we are on the West Coast, the East Coast, in Texas, Minnesota or any point in between, SHARK sees and videotapes the same abuses. We wonder when's the last time you had your vision checked, because you seem to be impaired.
Most of the animals live out a life better then many of ours.
You mean you're shocking and beating yourselves also?
Not everyone goes to the slaughter house as you claim.
The slaughterhouse people tell us something quite different. Besides, there are plenty of horses you can buy cheap at auction, slap 'em around some, spur 'em, tighten up a flank strap around their sensitive abdomens, and voila! You have a "wild, mean, rank bucking horse."
Most of em go out to breed.
Ridiculous. You can make more money sending them to slaughter than to do the right thing and take care of these animals. Rodeo people have referred to these animals as "junk" when they fail to perform.
Some even become peoples pets.
Well, there goes the "wild, mean and rank" propaganda.
Sure there are a few people who do break the rules. but you have that in every sport.
The difference is that in other sports the rule breakers are penalized, and if need be, thrown out. In rodeo their reward is that they are called "stars."
If you knew anything about rodeo you'd know that alot of the crap on here is crap.
We are more than open for debates with rodeo "leaders," at which time they could make those points. They won't because they know we are right, and they would be exposed as the phonies they are.
Ive been around horses and bulls all my life. Bucking horses n bulls are trained to buck just like we do with throughbreds. only they are trained to run not buck.
These animals buck because of the mistreatment, and that is why spurs and the flank strap are not only required, but also the electric prod and other tormenting devices, which are supposedly banned but are used regularly.
Oh and as for carrie underwood. Tell her to stick to her goody goody songs theres nothing i hate more n this world then a freakn hipcrit.
Hypocrite? This strong and brave woman has been very open about who she is. You just fear that kind of strength and courage in her convictions. A strong woman like that scares the daylights out of you phony cowboys. You must prefer those empty-headed, big-haired buckle bunny types. A real woman would just laugh at your smallness, and you can take that any way you want.
In a message dated 10/29/2006 6:15:36 P.M. Central Standard Time, cowgirlheeler@hotmail.com writes:
I find it very offensive that you think this way when it is more than obvious that you don't know what you are talking about and know nothing about animals in general or the rodeo world.
Ridiculous. We have been attending and documenting rodeos for well over a decade. Where do you think the videos and pictures come from?
People who rodeo make their livings from those animals and would do nothing to harm them. We have been caring for and raising these animals for 100's of years, we know what we are doing and we do not mistreat animals.
Absolutely ridiculous. Steer busting, calf roping, wild horse races, suicide and chuckwagon races, electric prods, etc. all show your complete disregard for the nonhuman victims of rodeo.
There are always one or two bad people in every organization, but it is a real travesty that none of you know enough or are smart enough to realize this.
If this was an issue of one or two people in an otherwise good bunch of folks, then you would kick them out and that would be it. We have documented abuses from the top names in rodeo -- they are named on our sites, mainly at either at RodeoCruelty.com or CowboyCriminals.com. It's not one or two bad apples, it's not one or two thousand. It's most of you, and the few who know how things should work apparently don't have the guts to step forward.
And it is a real shame that you support people like Carrie Underwood whose militant views are to convert everyone into vegetarians.
Militant? Carrie Underwood??? You've gone from absolutely to ridiculous to laughably absurd.
She is not the kind of person I would be proud of.
That's alright. We think she's a good person with character and conviction -- something you obviously lack.
And for the record when she performed at the National FFA Convention the students were so upset by her presence at the convention that more than 600 people walked out when she took the stage!
Your loss. Sorry to burst your balloon, but I doubt she cares that much if a few morons don't like her because she has some character.
People like you need to actually meet real cowboys and cowgirls instead of spreading slanderous filth like this. People like you are a disgrace to man kind!
We've met plenty of you. If you think we are wrong or don't know our stuff, encourage your cowardly leadership to meet us in public debate. They haven't for almost a decade because we'll expose all of you for what you are. Prove us wrong.
In a message dated 10/12/2006 10:49:18 P.M. CDT, Concerned Equestrian
(pbrchickcs3@aol.com) writes:
Hi I'm writing to you to say that your opinions are completely stupid.
Thanks for your support.
Have you ever sat through a rodeo?
How do you think we get all the video and pictures that are on our site?
Do you know what happens to the horses when they aren't rodeoing?
Yes, they are in a livestock trailer being trucked to the next rodeo.
They get turned out on hundreds of acres of grass fields to graze freely as if they WERE wild.
Ridiculous.
You have no idea as to what you are talking about.
Sure we do. That's why the rodeo mafia is scared to death of us.
And saying that Hilary Duff is cruel just because she sang at a rodeo?
If she sang at an abortion clinic, would you get it then?
Please tell me that you have something better to do with your life!
That's a funny statement coming from a rodeo nut.
Its a way of life for people and you need to learn to deal with it!
You need to get a life, and a real job.
And that was EXTREMELY rude of you to make the comment of "Give me a break" about the cowboys prayer!
Sorry, that's what we tend to say about hypocrites who hide behind the American flag, pray to God, and then beat the living daylights out of his animals.
IGNORANCE! That is all that you have!
Such a declaration from a rodeo person is quite humorous.
Rodeos are not as cruel as you think!
How cruel are they?
Try growing up around it like I have and see if you have the same outlook on it.
Should we also try growing up around neo-Nazis, so we can understand their hate? Thanks, but we have good lives and we do not wish to lower ourselves.
Rodeos aren't cruel.
Sure they are. Our videos and pictures don't lie.
Animals are upkept and if they aren't in top shape.. guess what? THEY DON'T GO!
Sure they do. You just keep shocking and spiking and otherwise abusing them, and they go.
If I could live my life free to roam around on pastures for 8 seconds of having a rope around me and some
one sit on me every now and then, I'd much rather do that!
If someone did to you what is done to rodeo victims, they would be arrested. Get real.
Times are changing in rodeos and maybe you need to change your opinions and go watch a rodeo before you knock it!
We attend rodeos regularly. How do you think we get our videos and pictures?
I own a horse, plan to rodeo in the future, grew up around it, still attend them and never will stop attending them! Neither will anyone else!
We are sorry for all of you. That's the truth.
You are full of crap.
Again, say what you wish about us, but our videos and pictures don't lie.
And I hope you read this and email me back, because I would be more than happy to continue to give you a piece of my mind!
Done.
OPEN YOUR EYES!
They are wide open. Why don't you do the same?
To you Hypocrites,
Ok! First, rodeo doesn't have any intentions of hurting animals. We enjoy it as a sport and i think the animals also enjoy it they get to run free across an arena or buck a human being off their back. sure, their wrestled to the ground but it's fun for them they enjoy that it's their natural instincts to do that sort of stuff & if u bitches cant understand that maybe u should get ur fat asses out in an arena and see what's it like to be the cowgirls and cowboys of the rodeo we work hard to be the best and it's the cowboy way to just fight and may the best cowboy/cowgirl win!!!!!!!! The Rodeo Girl & Tucker Johnson's Girlfriend, Jennifer,
It doesn't matter if you intend to hurt the animals, you do hurt them. And given rodeo's long history of hurting animals in the past, it is a pretty good bet that the same events are going to hurt them in the future. With that consideration, it isn't really an accident when they get hurt, because you knew, or should have known that it would happen. Rodeo people can't cut it in real sports, no matter how much y'all try to convince yourselves otherwise in your deluded little worlds under the shade of those ridiculous hats. Let me tell you who the hypocrites are. It is the rodeo person who claims that humane rules are followed when they aren't. It is the rodeo industry that changes the name of calf roping to tie-down roping. It is the rodeo industry that can't let television viewers actually see the calf at the moment the rope go taut and the young animal is clothes-lined. Same thing for single steer roping, once more aptly named steer tripping. It is the rodeo judge who watches violations occur and says nothing. It is anyone and everyone who claims that rodeo events are an extension of actual ranch history. Rodeo events aren't extensions -- they are perversions. The biggest hypocrisy of all is when rodeo people surround themselves with the American flag and pray to God, and then beat the living hell out of God's animals with a display of un-American cruelty and cowardice that Bin Laden would be hard pressed to equal. Dear Mr. Hypocrite, I'm very sorrry to inform you that the animals from last nights rodeo DID NOT GET HURT!!!! WE don't want to hurt the animals it goes so f***** fast they dont even realize what happens all they know is they're doin the same f***** thing that their grandparents probably did because they're getting chased by a horse but it's fun to them! OK? good i'm glad u understand!! GO BURN IN HELL U F***** HYPOCRITE!!!!!!!!!!! the rodeo queen as we know her,Jennifer I'm sure your parents must be so proud. |
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The Rodeo Mafia prefers their victims silent and helpless. Faced with the prospect of going head-to-head with a fearless animal protector with integrity and truth, they hide like the macho phonies they are. Cowboy Up!? Yeah, right.
